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Micah L. Sifry's avatar

You wrote: "It just frustrates me to no end that so much of the left's approach to the conflict, its political analysis, it's strategy and immediate tactics are so completely and utterly wrong and dangerous, picking tactics - protesting a funeral or a union convention - that alienate sympathetic allies while using rhetoric that assists Trump in taking office. It makes clear that the "left" in the US attacking Biden are the Palestinians worst enemies. Rightwing Israelis know Trump would have given them a free hand for full genocide against the Palestinians. It's just one of the worst self-destructive periods on the left in my lifetime that is endangering the lives and future of millions of Palestinians."

100% agree, Nathan.

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Rock_M's avatar

What are those “extreme strategies” that you think the Israelis are pursuing or would pursue? If you have evidence of such, by all means describe and defend it. If not, consider that you are perpetrating a blood libel and putting yourself in the most despicable company. Your choice.

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Nathan Newman 🧭's avatar

"Blood libel"? The flip side of wrongheaded left opposition to Israel is all the folks accusing anti-Occupation Jews (or their descendants in my case) of being antisemitic because we think leveling hospitals and universities and killing tens of thousands of civilians is bad. Current Israeli leadership and Hamas are basically mirror images of each other in their extremity and cruelty- and the hope is in those Palestinian and Israeli activists looking for unity, such as Standing Together and other similar groups.

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Rock_M's avatar

his is a lot of rhetoric that establishes that you and I disagree and nothing else. I used the word “blood libel” about a specific statement that was made. The Israelis were accused of “extreme strategies” in prosecuting its war against Hamas. I think this means the commenter thinks they are committing war crimes but I don’t know exactly what they are doing that makes him think that, so I asked him. Accusing Israel of deliberately killing babies or plotting the death of all Palestinians or whatever, without offering any evidence, is no different from accusing Jews of killing Christian children to make matzah for Passover, without evidence. It is hate speech, the effect and purpose of which is to stir up deadly hatred of Jews. That is the blood libel and that is why I use that word. It is very precise. Anyone who doesn’t like to be in that company can find a different way to make their point.

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